Hippies, the Real Terrorists. As They Attempt to Weigh in on Osama’s Death, They Manage to Severely Annoy Hardworking Americans
Jonah Kai Morreale
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Jonah Kai Morreale forgive me for the agressive tone.. I just got finished reading many ingnorant posts about 0sama’s “recently reported” death.3 hours ago · · 3 people
Sushila Battagione ♥ feeling a little perturbed myself.3 hours ago · · 2 people- Jonah Kai Morreale I keep thinking people are more awake by now„, and then I see some of the stuff even people in my friends list are posting… it’s as if we forget how interconneced we all are… it’s as if “oh he’s dead, cool! Guess now I can go back to texting on my iPhone while eating my big mac and fries with American Idol on”. :/3 hours ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale *Sigh, I have so much love and compassion for my own blocks and awakening that this is obviously reflecting in my “others”.3 hours ago · · 1 person
Morgan Áine Brackett that, and also some people are just stupid.3 hours ago · - Jonah Kai Morreale lol- thanks Morgan, I appreciate your blunt humor!3 hours ago · · 1 person
- Morgan Áine Brackett i always had a problem saying that… i felt it sounded so judgy, but recently ive come to the realization that it is actually true.3 hours ago · · 1 person
Aimee Ellis Oops. That that mean I’m stupid if I’m feeling patriotic? I guess so, according to you guys!3 hours ago · · 1 person- Morgan Áine Brackett not necessarily. one can feel patriotic without falling for the illusion. i think there should be a kinsey scale for stupid. there are lots of idiots who arent patriotic. there are also people who just havent woken up. im talking about people who are actually stupid, regardless of a predilection to patriotism or not.3 hours ago · · 1 person
- Morgan Áine Brackett in other words, patriotism in itself isnt stupid.3 hours ago · · 2 people
- Jonah Kai Morreale Aimee- not at all. I am referring to the ignorance of racism that people are celebrating the death of someone, blindly assuming that our own American troops did not also brutally torture, rape and kill many many many innocent “towlheands” because they looked like our conditioned image of “terrorist”. I frankly wish more people had seen the movie Farenheit 9-11.3 hours ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale Patriotism can be a great thing. Racism never is.3 hours ago ·
- Morgan Áine Brackett my personal definition of stupid is someone who is willfully choosing to be ignorant. some in their youtrh may be socialized into an ignorant mindset by societal factors.. raised racist for example. but at some point, when one has so many chances to question and explore their beliefs, and so much more opportunity to educate themselves one way or another, but they choose not to.. then they are stupid. racism is stupid.3 hours ago · · 1 person
- Morgan Áine Brackett hey Jonah we wrote that at basically the same time :)3 hours ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale haha! yeah I noticed that- I was just about to say you sound more versed languistically in my own opinions than I!!3 hours ago · · 1 person
- Morgan Áine Brackett i know many very intelligent people who are willfully stupid.3 hours ago · · 1 person
- Morgan Áine Brackett as in stuuupor3 hours ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale I can admit, I was raised in a pretty cult-like religion, taught to hate gays and anyone else that didn’t choose “the truth” as we were taught it was. I finally met my first real-live-gay-person in high school, and he was incredibly nice... not at all unknowingly evil and Devilish as I was brainwashed to beleive… it was then that I started questioning many other assumptions we were trained in, including unsonscious sexism and prejudice.3 hours ago · · 2 people
- Jonah Kai Morreale F0R THE REC0RD I escaped from being a JW at abour age 12-14.3 hours ago ·
- Aimee Ellis Why would anyone willfully choose to be stupid if they knew of a better way? I didn’t know there was a way to clearly differentiate between were “good” stupid people and “bad” stupid people. Also, Morgan, how did you get so smart that you know who is willfully stupid and who is stupid because of societal factors?? Are you offering classes? There are a lot of Sociology professionals that would be interested to hear your thoughts. Jonah, what if people are celebrating patriotism tonight because they feel unity with other Americans? Maybe people aren’t just simply celebrating a “death”. Maybe it has deeper meaning to people who are not like you and might think you are stupid and racist?2 hours ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale The racism is un/sub-conscious- that’s my point. “willfully stupid”, I’m thinking, is a term used for people who continue to support negativity out of conditioning; feeling that’s what a good sameritan should do.. to rally about the “killing” of another when infact we have never even proven he was responsible for what happened in 2001. Infact, it’s very likely Americans are more responsible than most would believe or be open to.
I am ALL F0R Unity consciousness, and comerodery.. I too chanted “YES WE CAN” in the streets like a blind fool, because I wanted to beleive in hope and positive “change”. I personally beleive that 0sama has actually been long dead. But before I go getting into conspiracy theories that are well established and written/documented, I will simply say this::: I am sorry if my above post offends you. It was in no way directed towards you. It was, I admit, my reaction to what I witnessed as other people “hooraying” as if we had won some game, and now it’s over. A: It’s a cover up, for what? i don’t know. B) People still seem to think we are blood free in this supposed victory.2 hours ago · · 3 people
- Jonah Kai Morreale Aimee I do appreciate the bodning factor, and think that is essential to community, something our nation lacks so much of, at least on a large-scale.. I just think we could be celebrating something else instead.2 hours ago · · 1 person
- Morgan Áine Brackett i dont think people are saying to themselves ‘i want to be stupid’, i think that they just arent interested in expansion. i dont think there is a way to clearly differentiate, per say, i just in a nutshell describe what i thought the word stupid to mean, to me. i am also dealing within the confines of semantics here, so i cant possibly sumise my full range of non-dualistic thoughts regarding this dualistic statement ive made. im aware that ive made a good/bad polarization, but i dont know how to adequately describe what i mean in a way other than to say: at some point you have a choice to not be a raacist.being i think the point where that time comes is highly individual, i cant say myself when that line is. when i speak of scoietal factors, im talking for example of the white southern kid in the 1050’s who was raised in a racist family, in a racist town, in a racist state, etc.. he grows up racist. until he realizes that there is a BETTER WAY. some people are exposed to that better way their whole damn life, and go to their grave stupid, no matter how high their i.q. was.
some people may indeed be celebrating patriotism for reason other than celebrating a murder of a murderer, by murderers, who funded said murderer, and used his face to further there murderous campaign for oil and power. i dont think jonah is talking about those people. i think jonah is talking about people who dont really understand what they are celebrating. take the holiday of thanksgiving for example. its one thing if your family expresses the essence of the idea of gratitude on thanksgiving, but we cant ignore the truth of the holidays horrible inception.
i think Jonah would have to give people a reason to think he is racist. certainly someone may find him stupid, just as they might find me stupid or anyone else. like i said, i realize its a judgement. but im not saying that anyone is a better soul for being stupid or not. which is why i do not celebrate this death. in my eyes, a human soul who was a murderer is on a spiritual level, as valuable and divine as a human who is a saint.2 hours ago ·
- Morgan Áine Brackett oops lots n lots of typos.. like summarize instead of sumise.. and 1950’s instead of 19050’s.. i didnt proofread, sorry!2 hours ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale haha, proodread? I caught that! ;)2 hours ago ·
- Aimee Ellis Sure. I just noticed that Jonah implied people were celebrating Osama’s death because they were racists, and I thought that was stupid.2 hours ago · · 1 person
- Jonah Kai Morreale ”in my eyes, a human soul who was a murderer is on a spiritual level, as valuable and divine as a human who is a saint.” Thank you Morgan, that is exactly why I put the Bob Marley Quote in there. By the way, Moran, that long post above, I agree with each and every single word of it. ♥2 hours ago · · 1 person
- Morgan Áine Brackett and really the racism aspect of this that Jonah is speaking of isnt as much the focus of my frustration with what i see as being a national stupidity.. for me it is seeing that the majority of our country is hungrily eating up the lies, the people who still truly think that our government has nothing but our best interests at heart.2 hours ago · · 1 person
- Jonah Kai Morreale Aimee- touche, on some level, that is what I was saying… which is why I might suggest to those -not you- who are, to look at WHY they are celebrating this issue. 0ne person wrote “hopefully this means an end to terrorism”:: that statement to me is what all of these above comments are trying to point out and bring enlightenment to.2 hours ago · · 1 person
- Jonah Kai Morreale again- 100% agree. We are on the same page, M.2 hours ago ·
- Morgan Áine Brackett and for the record, i dont feel that all the people who are celebrating his death are racist. i think a good many of them couldnt give a fuck which country he was from. really thats not even my angle. BUT.. what i thought Jonah was getting at was that they werent even AWARE of the racism enacted by our own government, and that he thought THAT is being stupid, which i to some mitigated extent, also think. for example… genocide in Africa. starvation. our government is documented as having tested sterilazation drugs on countless thousands of Africans. that is most defiantely racism. but some pople just still dont seem to see behind the curtain..2 hours ago · · 2 people
- Aimee Ellis I’m not directing this at the two of you, but sometimes I personally am frustrated by what I see a lot of sometimes — hippies / left wingers sitting back and partying, philosophising about how ignorant everyone else in America is for not living in the reality that they do / viewing the world the way they do. It seems like a lot of assuming other people are too ignorant to understand where you are coming from, or that you are the ones who have all the answers for ignorant middle Americans as you are the only ones who are “enlightened”. I don’t know if that is what quite how the Dali Lama / Ghandi / Bob Marley envisioned their teachings and philosophies being utilized.2 hours ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale There is a big difference between lathargic “hippies” and self-educated truth seekers, of whatever path/s. Again, no 0NE is better/higher than anyone else. Hitler may well have been my mama in a past life… if past lives even exist. It issimply impossible for all of us to be seperate from one another. By “enlightened” I mean “shed-light-on/become aware of”. Most Americans have been trained into blindness, and more and more each day are learning they can train their own eyes to see more. IF and WHEN it resnates. Most people cannnot even hear any of these personal beliefs without feeling triggered. It sure touched my heart when I learned one of my own sisters was gay. That spead up my evolution pretty damn fast ;)2 hours ago · · 2 people
- Jonah Kai Morreale ”I don’t know if that is what quite how the Dali Lama / Ghandi / Bob Marley envisioned their teachings and philosophies utilized.” I feel in my heart that the way I meant it, *maybe not perceived that way* that I shared that appropriately for the highest good- in the way the indend.2 hours ago · · 1 person
- Jonah Kai Morreale *intend*2 hours ago ·
- Aimee Ellis I know you did Jonah, I’m just ranting on FB late in the night :-)2 hours ago ·
- Morgan Áine Brackett i think a lot of the hippies you speak of are really seekers who have actively sought out and sifted through as much information as they can, both pro’s and con’s to arrive at their conclusions. sooo many people dont bother to do that. they just watch fox news and call it good, and assume that its the truth. they dont seek. it does seem that this is a cultural meme throughout middle america, as well as other places. and i do understand what youre saying about the shoe being on the other foot. but i have a hard time getting where the partying laying back philosophizing bit comes in. as far as Ghandi is concerned, i think he would be the first one to back us up when we say that a murder is not to be rejoiced, and that corruption is real. the Dalia Lama is also well versed in corruption, considering that he and his comrades and predecessors have had to flee tibet for their lives for a few hundred years.2 hours ago · · 1 person
- Aimee Ellis ”i have a hard time getting where the partying laying back philosophizing bit comes in” Simple - most people in the ghettos & blue collar America are too busy working to make bread to have the time to actively seek out and sift through this plethora of information you speak of.2 hours ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale Exactly- they don’t have time: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz2 hours ago · · 1 person
- Aimee Ellis p.s. They probably won’t make it to Burning Man this year either.2 hours ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale that’s why they titled it: “An inconvenient truth”2 hours ago · · 1 person
- Jonah Kai Morreale What does that have to do with anything? Is that stereotyping?2 hours ago · · 1 person
- Aimee Ellis Totally, I’m a stupid, racist, stereotyper of Burners and Hippies.2 hours ago ·
- Aimee Ellis p.p.s. This whole Osama buried at sea thing does seem very fishy to me.2 hours ago ·
- Morgan Áine Brackett you do realize that hippies also have regular jobs too, from blue-collar to white collar, right? do you know how many computer geeks are hippies, and they spend 80 hours a week programming yet still inform themselves and arent complacent to just accept whats dished out to them? and you think all middle america is working to hard? just as many slackers there. and i cant even begin to tell you how many people i know who think as jonah and i do who would not in any way fall into the category of hippie.2 hours ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale huh? you lost me on the last 2 comments.2 hours ago · · 1 person
- Aimee Ellis I used to be a hippie, but then I started to think that hippies were stupid and annoying.2 hours ago ·
- Morgan Áine Brackett some hippies are. your serve.2 hours ago · · 2 people
- Jonah Kai Morreale spike!2 hours ago · · 1 person
- Aimee Ellis It is clear that the two of you definitely don’t get the fact that I’m being tongue in cheek in this thread right now. Going back to my #1 reason why I think hippies are annoying.about an hour ago · · 1 person
- Jonah Kai Morreale lol - this whole thread is just as funny as it is heated… only because I can’t beleive I have stated my opinion and am now continuing with it… pens ready? I do not consider myself a hippie. Hippy is a term technically given to those who lived in a certain time period. I, am a self-proclaimed Sensitive New Age Guy, but only because I like making people laugh when I say it. Jeese Louise! Just because I meditate with crystals, sleep with mugwart under my pillow, take flower essences four times a day, hug trees, have long hair, and sometimes enjoy kirtan- I’m supposedly a hippy!?! has the world gone mad? lolabout an hour ago · · 2 people
- Morgan Áine Brackett what comical is that you have no idea if i am a hippie or not. you think that just because of my ideas.about an hour ago ·
- Aimee Ellis I’d like to note that I stated earlier in this tread before starting that rant that my statement was NOT directed at the two of you. Maybe you are stereotyping yourself as one of “those kind of hippies” because you are scared you are one of them. I only like Sensitive New Age Guys, personally.about an hour ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale Morgan, c’mon! Toes, obvi! Look at your eye make up, and your clothes! just kidding ;)about an hour ago · · 1 person
- Morgan Áine Brackett you are right, i didnt get that you were being tongue in cheek. it actually seemed that you just started taking pot-shots and low blows. in none of my comments to you did i profile or personally attack yu or put you down.about an hour ago ·
- Aimee Ellis It is comical that you think I think you are a hippie. I thought you seemed more like a “Sensitive New Age Girl”.about an hour ago ·
- Aimee Ellis How can I put you down when I have only interacted with you on the internet and don’t know you? I didn’t know I was so powerful.about an hour ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale a SNAG! Bingo!about an hour ago ·
- Aimee Ellis My goal actually was to make this the worlds longest FB thread of non-hippies.about an hour ago · · 1 person
- Morgan Áine Brackett ”It is clear that the two of you definitely don’t get the fact that I’m being tongue in cheek in this thread right now. Going back to my #1 reason why I think hippies are annoying.”
you wrote that, right? ok, thought so.
i couldnt be LESS scared of being a hippy.. afterall, did you see my makeup? ;)about an hour ago · · 1 person
- Aimee Ellis Morgan, please google what “tongue in cheek” actually means.about an hour ago ·
- Aimee Ellis p.s. Osama is my baby’s daddy.about an hour ago ·
- Morgan Áine Brackett no you definately started being a bit mean and put down ish, and in fact did say we were annoying. when it gets to the point that someone im having a debate with starts going there, i realize that the communication has ended, so no use to go further. my input is over at this point, ive made my case, quite well and intelligently.about an hour ago · · 1 person
- Jonah Kai Morreale can’t we all just get along? I think this is hilarious! and yes, I too thougt it was a denied jab, but then realized you were teasing… Aabout an hour ago · · 1 person
- Aimee Ellis p.p.s. He got with me because he liked my hippie make-up so we can relate on that level.about an hour ago ·
- Aimee Ellis p.p.p.s. I am definitely more than just a bit mean and down ish.about an hour ago ·
- Aimee Ellis I just believe that the later in the night it is, the sillier the FB thread should become. Please don’t discriminate against me for my views.about an hour ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale Morgan- your words ring very true to me, and I am quite impressed, as I mentioned earlier. ♥about an hour ago · · 1 person
- Aimee Ellis Me too, I just am an asshole.about an hour ago ·
- Aimee Ellis CORRECTION: Osama WAS my baby’s daddy when he was still alive.about an hour ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale This is a good lesson: Macro=micro, 0sama=reclection.about an hour ago · · 1 person
- Jonah Kai Morreale *reflectionabout an hour ago ·
- Aimee Ellis Another good lesson is that Aimee Ellis degrades the level of the dialogue on FB threads.about an hour ago ·
- Aimee Ellis *whatever.about an hour ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale okay, I’m tired too. I’m resting this case. Love to you both. Let’s nurture our brains now and shake it off, eh?about an hour ago · · 1 person
- Aimee Ellis p.p.p.p.s. I never knew hippies had real jobs so this has been a very enlightening night for me.about an hour ago ·
- Aimee Ellis What would I shake off? That was hella fun.about an hour ago ·
- Morgan Áine Brackett and to think on my wall post that i made even before this thread i said i wasnt going to get into this thing on any other posts, and here i am in a 67 comment thread between 3 people. my ego is stupid. goodnight!about an hour ago · · 1 person
- Aimee Ellis In order to officially crush your ego, I am going to have the last word on this thread.about an hour ago · · 1 person
- Morgan Áine Brackett oh lady, i wish it were that easy, if you could destroy my ego for me id hire you on the daily and be ever so grateful for your services. ive been trying to lose this thing for eons :oPabout an hour ago · · 2 people
- Jonah Kai Morreale hahahahaha! best ending ever!about an hour ago ·
- Aimee Ellis Clearly your ego is big, you would stay up all night to try and have the last word on this thread. Also I don’t think you could afford to hire me anyway.about an hour ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale Aime- she meant that as a joke from a place of humility, not attack.about an hour ago ·
- Aimee Ellis Jonah, tongue in cheek, remember?about an hour ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale lol- sorry :-P guess I need to enlighten up! ;)about an hour ago · · 1 person
Erin Hennessy I love you Jonah Kai…so very much…thank you for your beauty! This is, by far, the most stimulating thread I have stumbled upon in some time. Thank you…all 3 of you…for voicing your truth. I feel saddened by people’s celebration of the death of any being. I pray for the enlightening and awakening of each of us…in our own time. I was disheartened by the ignorance and/or stupidity in the form of hatred spilling down my FB wall, but can understand where people are coming from… the unity they feel because of this supposed accomplishment and the desire to feel safe. I do not think the death of this individual (if he is indeed dead…and if he was involved in the 9-11 attacks) makes us any more or less safe. I pray for each of us to remember our unity not only as a country, but as beings. I am hopeful for a more unified, enlightened, and LOVING future for all. I am grateful!
- Jonah Kai Morreale forgive me for the agressive tone.. I just got finished reading many ingnorant posts about 0sama’s “recently reported” death.3 hours ago · · 3 people
- Sushila Battagione ♥ feeling a little perturbed myself.3 hours ago · · 2 people
- Jonah Kai Morreale I keep thinking people are more awake by now„, and then I see some of the stuff even people in my friends list are posting… it’s as if we forget how interconneced we all are… it’s as if “oh he’s dead, cool! Guess now I can go back to texting on my iPhone while eating my big mac and fries with American Idol on”. :/3 hours ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale *Sigh, I have so much love and compassion for my own blocks and awakening that this is obviously reflecting in my “others”.3 hours ago · · 1 person
- Morgan Áine Brackett that, and also some people are just stupid.3 hours ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale lol- thanks Morgan, I appreciate your blunt humor!3 hours ago · · 1 person
- Morgan Áine Brackett i always had a problem saying that… i felt it sounded so judgy, but recently ive come to the realization that it is actually true.3 hours ago · · 1 person
- Aimee Ellis Oops. That that mean I’m stupid if I’m feeling patriotic? I guess so, according to you guys!3 hours ago · · 1 person
- Morgan Áine Brackett not necessarily. one can feel patriotic without falling for the illusion. i think there should be a kinsey scale for stupid. there are lots of idiots who arent patriotic. there are also people who just havent woken up. im talking about people who are actually stupid, regardless of a predilection to patriotism or not.3 hours ago · · 1 person
- Morgan Áine Brackett in other words, patriotism in itself isnt stupid.3 hours ago · · 2 people
- Jonah Kai Morreale Aimee- not at all. I am referring to the ignorance of racism that people are celebrating the death of someone, blindly assuming that our own American troops did not also brutally torture, rape and kill many many many innocent “towlheands” because they looked like our conditioned image of “terrorist”. I frankly wish more people had seen the movie Farenheit 9-11.3 hours ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale Patriotism can be a great thing. Racism never is.3 hours ago ·
- Morgan Áine Brackett my personal definition of stupid is someone who is willfully choosing to be ignorant. some in their youtrh may be socialized into an ignorant mindset by societal factors.. raised racist for example. but at some point, when one has so many chances to question and explore their beliefs, and so much more opportunity to educate themselves one way or another, but they choose not to.. then they are stupid. racism is stupid.3 hours ago · · 1 person
- Morgan Áine Brackett hey Jonah we wrote that at basically the same time :)3 hours ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale haha! yeah I noticed that- I was just about to say you sound more versed languistically in my own opinions than I!!3 hours ago · · 1 person
- Morgan Áine Brackett i know many very intelligent people who are willfully stupid.3 hours ago · · 1 person
- Morgan Áine Brackett as in stuuupor3 hours ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale I can admit, I was raised in a pretty cult-like religion, taught to hate gays and anyone else that didn’t choose “the truth” as we were taught it was. I finally met my first real-live-gay-person in high school, and he was incredibly nice... not at all unknowingly evil and Devilish as I was brainwashed to beleive… it was then that I started questioning many other assumptions we were trained in, including unsonscious sexism and prejudice.3 hours ago · · 2 people
- Jonah Kai Morreale F0R THE REC0RD I escaped from being a JW at abour age 12-14.3 hours ago ·
- Aimee Ellis Why would anyone willfully choose to be stupid if they knew of a better way? I didn’t know there was a way to clearly differentiate between were “good” stupid people and “bad” stupid people. Also, Morgan, how did you get so smart that you know who is willfully stupid and who is stupid because of societal factors?? Are you offering classes? There are a lot of Sociology professionals that would be interested to hear your thoughts. Jonah, what if people are celebrating patriotism tonight because they feel unity with other Americans? Maybe people aren’t just simply celebrating a “death”. Maybe it has deeper meaning to people who are not like you and might think you are stupid and racist?2 hours ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale The racism is un/sub-conscious- that’s my point. “willfully stupid”, I’m thinking, is a term used for people who continue to support negativity out of conditioning; feeling that’s what a good sameritan should do.. to rally about the “killing” of another when infact we have never even proven he was responsible for what happened in 2001. Infact, it’s very likely Americans are more responsible than most would believe or be open to.
I am ALL F0R Unity consciousness, and comerodery.. I too chanted “YES WE CAN” in the streets like a blind fool, because I wanted to beleive in hope and positive “change”. I personally beleive that 0sama has actually been long dead. But before I go getting into conspiracy theories that are well established and written/documented, I will simply say this::: I am sorry if my above post offends you. It was in no way directed towards you. It was, I admit, my reaction to what I witnessed as other people “hooraying” as if we had won some game, and now it’s over. A: It’s a cover up, for what? i don’t know. B) People still seem to think we are blood free in this supposed victory.2 hours ago · · 3 people - Jonah Kai Morreale Aimee I do appreciate the bodning factor, and think that is essential to community, something our nation lacks so much of, at least on a large-scale.. I just think we could be celebrating something else instead.2 hours ago · · 1 person
- Morgan Áine Brackett i dont think people are saying to themselves ‘i want to be stupid’, i think that they just arent interested in expansion. i dont think there is a way to clearly differentiate, per say, i just in a nutshell describe what i thought the word stupid to mean, to me. i am also dealing within the confines of semantics here, so i cant possibly sumise my full range of non-dualistic thoughts regarding this dualistic statement ive made. im aware that ive made a good/bad polarization, but i dont know how to adequately describe what i mean in a way other than to say: at some point you have a choice to not be a raacist.being i think the point where that time comes is highly individual, i cant say myself when that line is. when i speak of scoietal factors, im talking for example of the white southern kid in the 1050’s who was raised in a racist family, in a racist town, in a racist state, etc.. he grows up racist. until he realizes that there is a BETTER WAY. some people are exposed to that better way their whole damn life, and go to their grave stupid, no matter how high their i.q. was.
some people may indeed be celebrating patriotism for reason other than celebrating a murder of a murderer, by murderers, who funded said murderer, and used his face to further there murderous campaign for oil and power. i dont think jonah is talking about those people. i think jonah is talking about people who dont really understand what they are celebrating. take the holiday of thanksgiving for example. its one thing if your family expresses the essence of the idea of gratitude on thanksgiving, but we cant ignore the truth of the holidays horrible inception.
i think Jonah would have to give people a reason to think he is racist. certainly someone may find him stupid, just as they might find me stupid or anyone else. like i said, i realize its a judgement. but im not saying that anyone is a better soul for being stupid or not. which is why i do not celebrate this death. in my eyes, a human soul who was a murderer is on a spiritual level, as valuable and divine as a human who is a saint.2 hours ago · - Morgan Áine Brackett oops lots n lots of typos.. like summarize instead of sumise.. and 1950’s instead of 19050’s.. i didnt proofread, sorry!2 hours ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale haha, proodread? I caught that! ;)2 hours ago ·
- Aimee Ellis Sure. I just noticed that Jonah implied people were celebrating Osama’s death because they were racists, and I thought that was stupid.2 hours ago · · 1 person
- Jonah Kai Morreale ”in my eyes, a human soul who was a murderer is on a spiritual level, as valuable and divine as a human who is a saint.” Thank you Morgan, that is exactly why I put the Bob Marley Quote in there. By the way, Moran, that long post above, I agree with each and every single word of it. ♥2 hours ago · · 1 person
- Morgan Áine Brackett and really the racism aspect of this that Jonah is speaking of isnt as much the focus of my frustration with what i see as being a national stupidity.. for me it is seeing that the majority of our country is hungrily eating up the lies, the people who still truly think that our government has nothing but our best interests at heart.2 hours ago · · 1 person
- Jonah Kai Morreale Aimee- touche, on some level, that is what I was saying… which is why I might suggest to those -not you- who are, to look at WHY they are celebrating this issue. 0ne person wrote “hopefully this means an end to terrorism”:: that statement to me is what all of these above comments are trying to point out and bring enlightenment to.2 hours ago · · 1 person
- Jonah Kai Morreale again- 100% agree. We are on the same page, M.2 hours ago ·
- Morgan Áine Brackett and for the record, i dont feel that all the people who are celebrating his death are racist. i think a good many of them couldnt give a fuck which country he was from. really thats not even my angle. BUT.. what i thought Jonah was getting at was that they werent even AWARE of the racism enacted by our own government, and that he thought THAT is being stupid, which i to some mitigated extent, also think. for example… genocide in Africa. starvation. our government is documented as having tested sterilazation drugs on countless thousands of Africans. that is most defiantely racism. but some pople just still dont seem to see behind the curtain..2 hours ago · · 2 people
- Aimee Ellis I’m not directing this at the two of you, but sometimes I personally am frustrated by what I see a lot of sometimes — hippies / left wingers sitting back and partying, philosophising about how ignorant everyone else in America is for not living in the reality that they do / viewing the world the way they do. It seems like a lot of assuming other people are too ignorant to understand where you are coming from, or that you are the ones who have all the answers for ignorant middle Americans as you are the only ones who are “enlightened”. I don’t know if that is what quite how the Dali Lama / Ghandi / Bob Marley envisioned their teachings and philosophies being utilized.2 hours ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale There is a big difference between lathargic “hippies” and self-educated truth seekers, of whatever path/s. Again, no 0NE is better/higher than anyone else. Hitler may well have been my mama in a past life… if past lives even exist. It issimply impossible for all of us to be seperate from one another. By “enlightened” I mean “shed-light-on/become aware of”. Most Americans have been trained into blindness, and more and more each day are learning they can train their own eyes to see more. IF and WHEN it resnates. Most people cannnot even hear any of these personal beliefs without feeling triggered. It sure touched my heart when I learned one of my own sisters was gay. That spead up my evolution pretty damn fast ;)2 hours ago · · 2 people
- Jonah Kai Morreale ”I don’t know if that is what quite how the Dali Lama / Ghandi / Bob Marley envisioned their teachings and philosophies utilized.” I feel in my heart that the way I meant it, *maybe not perceived that way* that I shared that appropriately for the highest good- in the way the indend.2 hours ago · · 1 person
- Jonah Kai Morreale *intend*2 hours ago ·
- Aimee Ellis I know you did Jonah, I’m just ranting on FB late in the night :-)2 hours ago ·
- Morgan Áine Brackett i think a lot of the hippies you speak of are really seekers who have actively sought out and sifted through as much information as they can, both pro’s and con’s to arrive at their conclusions. sooo many people dont bother to do that. they just watch fox news and call it good, and assume that its the truth. they dont seek. it does seem that this is a cultural meme throughout middle america, as well as other places. and i do understand what youre saying about the shoe being on the other foot. but i have a hard time getting where the partying laying back philosophizing bit comes in. as far as Ghandi is concerned, i think he would be the first one to back us up when we say that a murder is not to be rejoiced, and that corruption is real. the Dalia Lama is also well versed in corruption, considering that he and his comrades and predecessors have had to flee tibet for their lives for a few hundred years.2 hours ago · · 1 person
- Aimee Ellis ”i have a hard time getting where the partying laying back philosophizing bit comes in” Simple - most people in the ghettos & blue collar America are too busy working to make bread to have the time to actively seek out and sift through this plethora of information you speak of.2 hours ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale Exactly- they don’t have time: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz2 hours ago · · 1 person
- Aimee Ellis p.s. They probably won’t make it to Burning Man this year either.2 hours ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale that’s why they titled it: “An inconvenient truth”2 hours ago · · 1 person
- Jonah Kai Morreale What does that have to do with anything? Is that stereotyping?2 hours ago · · 1 person
- Aimee Ellis Totally, I’m a stupid, racist, stereotyper of Burners and Hippies.2 hours ago ·
- Aimee Ellis p.p.s. This whole Osama buried at sea thing does seem very fishy to me.2 hours ago ·
- Morgan Áine Brackett you do realize that hippies also have regular jobs too, from blue-collar to white collar, right? do you know how many computer geeks are hippies, and they spend 80 hours a week programming yet still inform themselves and arent complacent to just accept whats dished out to them? and you think all middle america is working to hard? just as many slackers there. and i cant even begin to tell you how many people i know who think as jonah and i do who would not in any way fall into the category of hippie.2 hours ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale huh? you lost me on the last 2 comments.2 hours ago · · 1 person
- Aimee Ellis I used to be a hippie, but then I started to think that hippies were stupid and annoying.2 hours ago ·
- Morgan Áine Brackett some hippies are. your serve.2 hours ago · · 2 people
- Jonah Kai Morreale spike!2 hours ago · · 1 person
- Aimee Ellis It is clear that the two of you definitely don’t get the fact that I’m being tongue in cheek in this thread right now. Going back to my #1 reason why I think hippies are annoying.about an hour ago · · 1 person
- Jonah Kai Morreale lol - this whole thread is just as funny as it is heated… only because I can’t beleive I have stated my opinion and am now continuing with it… pens ready? I do not consider myself a hippie. Hippy is a term technically given to those who lived in a certain time period. I, am a self-proclaimed Sensitive New Age Guy, but only because I like making people laugh when I say it. Jeese Louise! Just because I meditate with crystals, sleep with mugwart under my pillow, take flower essences four times a day, hug trees, have long hair, and sometimes enjoy kirtan- I’m supposedly a hippy!?! has the world gone mad? lolabout an hour ago · · 2 people
- Morgan Áine Brackett what comical is that you have no idea if i am a hippie or not. you think that just because of my ideas.about an hour ago ·
- Aimee Ellis I’d like to note that I stated earlier in this tread before starting that rant that my statement was NOT directed at the two of you. Maybe you are stereotyping yourself as one of “those kind of hippies” because you are scared you are one of them. I only like Sensitive New Age Guys, personally.about an hour ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale Morgan, c’mon! Toes, obvi! Look at your eye make up, and your clothes! just kidding ;)about an hour ago · · 1 person
- Morgan Áine Brackett you are right, i didnt get that you were being tongue in cheek. it actually seemed that you just started taking pot-shots and low blows. in none of my comments to you did i profile or personally attack yu or put you down.about an hour ago ·
- Aimee Ellis It is comical that you think I think you are a hippie. I thought you seemed more like a “Sensitive New Age Girl”.about an hour ago ·
- Aimee Ellis How can I put you down when I have only interacted with you on the internet and don’t know you? I didn’t know I was so powerful.about an hour ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale a SNAG! Bingo!about an hour ago ·
- Aimee Ellis My goal actually was to make this the worlds longest FB thread of non-hippies.about an hour ago · · 1 person
- Morgan Áine Brackett ”It is clear that the two of you definitely don’t get the fact that I’m being tongue in cheek in this thread right now. Going back to my #1 reason why I think hippies are annoying.”
you wrote that, right? ok, thought so.
i couldnt be LESS scared of being a hippy.. afterall, did you see my makeup? ;)about an hour ago · · 1 person - Aimee Ellis Morgan, please google what “tongue in cheek” actually means.about an hour ago ·
- Aimee Ellis p.s. Osama is my baby’s daddy.about an hour ago ·
- Morgan Áine Brackett no you definately started being a bit mean and put down ish, and in fact did say we were annoying. when it gets to the point that someone im having a debate with starts going there, i realize that the communication has ended, so no use to go further. my input is over at this point, ive made my case, quite well and intelligently.about an hour ago · · 1 person
- Jonah Kai Morreale can’t we all just get along? I think this is hilarious! and yes, I too thougt it was a denied jab, but then realized you were teasing… Aabout an hour ago · · 1 person
- Aimee Ellis p.p.s. He got with me because he liked my hippie make-up so we can relate on that level.about an hour ago ·
- Aimee Ellis p.p.p.s. I am definitely more than just a bit mean and down ish.about an hour ago ·
- Aimee Ellis I just believe that the later in the night it is, the sillier the FB thread should become. Please don’t discriminate against me for my views.about an hour ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale Morgan- your words ring very true to me, and I am quite impressed, as I mentioned earlier. ♥about an hour ago · · 1 person
- Aimee Ellis Me too, I just am an asshole.about an hour ago ·
- Aimee Ellis CORRECTION: Osama WAS my baby’s daddy when he was still alive.about an hour ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale This is a good lesson: Macro=micro, 0sama=reclection.about an hour ago · · 1 person
- Jonah Kai Morreale *reflectionabout an hour ago ·
- Aimee Ellis Another good lesson is that Aimee Ellis degrades the level of the dialogue on FB threads.about an hour ago ·
- Aimee Ellis *whatever.about an hour ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale okay, I’m tired too. I’m resting this case. Love to you both. Let’s nurture our brains now and shake it off, eh?about an hour ago · · 1 person
- Aimee Ellis p.p.p.p.s. I never knew hippies had real jobs so this has been a very enlightening night for me.about an hour ago ·
- Aimee Ellis What would I shake off? That was hella fun.about an hour ago ·
- Morgan Áine Brackett and to think on my wall post that i made even before this thread i said i wasnt going to get into this thing on any other posts, and here i am in a 67 comment thread between 3 people. my ego is stupid. goodnight!about an hour ago · · 1 person
- Aimee Ellis In order to officially crush your ego, I am going to have the last word on this thread.about an hour ago · · 1 person
- Morgan Áine Brackett oh lady, i wish it were that easy, if you could destroy my ego for me id hire you on the daily and be ever so grateful for your services. ive been trying to lose this thing for eons :oPabout an hour ago · · 2 people
- Jonah Kai Morreale hahahahaha! best ending ever!about an hour ago ·
- Aimee Ellis Clearly your ego is big, you would stay up all night to try and have the last word on this thread. Also I don’t think you could afford to hire me anyway.about an hour ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale Aime- she meant that as a joke from a place of humility, not attack.about an hour ago ·
- Aimee Ellis Jonah, tongue in cheek, remember?about an hour ago ·
- Jonah Kai Morreale lol- sorry :-P guess I need to enlighten up! ;)about an hour ago · · 1 person
- Erin Hennessy I love you Jonah Kai…so very much…thank you for your beauty! This is, by far, the most stimulating thread I have stumbled upon in some time. Thank you…all 3 of you…for voicing your truth. I feel saddened by people’s celebration of the death of any being. I pray for the enlightening and awakening of each of us…in our own time. I was disheartened by the ignorance and/or stupidity in the form of hatred spilling down my FB wall, but can understand where people are coming from… the unity they feel because of this supposed accomplishment and the desire to feel safe. I do not think the death of this individual (if he is indeed dead…and if he was involved in the 9-11 attacks) makes us any more or less safe. I pray for each of us to remember our unity not only as a country, but as beings. I am hopeful for a more unified, enlightened, and LOVING future for all. I am grateful!
